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Just search new here. Welcome to the HBR Idea Cast from Harvard Business Review. I'm Sarah Green. Today I'm speaking

with David Upton, professor at Oxford University's Saeed Business School, and Sadie Crease, professor

of Cybersecurity at Oxford. They are the co-authors of the

HPR article The Danger from Within in our September 2014 issue. Thank you both

for joining us today. Not a tool, it's great to be with you.

By there. In the, you write that the biggest threat to our cybersecurity may actually be an employee or a

vendor, someone inside the company rather than a hacker trying to break into the system. So how common are insider attacks today?

This is a great question because one of the difficulties we have with insider attacks is that they're

disproportionately under reported

people within your organization who are causing you damage or

misbehaving in some way. It's much more embarrassing for you as a manager that you haven't put in

place the proper controls to deal with that problem. Whereas everybody has

experienced in the press and so on things about external attacks.

And of course the big thing about internal attacks is that when they do happen, the ability

to cause damage is considerable.

It can be devastating because of the power of the individual

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