Pretty Woman with Andrea Werhun and Nicole Bazuin
The Bechdel Cast
iHeartPodcasts
4.6 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 7 May 2026
⏱️ 85 minutes
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Summary
On this episode, Caitlin, Jamie, and special guests Andrea Werhun and Nicole Bazuin -- the filmmakers behind the documentary Modern Whore -- join to discuss Pretty Woman (1990)! Not listening to this? Big mistake! Huge!
Check out Modern Whore, available for digital rental and purchase! Follow Andrea on IG at @weenerwoman and Nicole at @nicobazuin
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.9 | On the Bechdelcast, the questions asked if movies have women in them. |
| 0:09.8 | Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do they have individualism? |
| 0:14.5 | The patriarchy's effing vast. |
| 0:17.1 | Start changing it with the Bechdel cast. |
| 0:20.4 | Hey, Jamie. Hey, Jamie. |
| 0:21.5 | Hey, Caitlin. |
| 0:22.5 | Look at this necklace I got you. |
| 0:25.1 | Whoa. |
| 0:25.9 | That's so nice. |
| 0:28.0 | That part of the movie was giving me Calhawkley, giving the heart of the ocean to Rose. |
| 0:34.9 | It is a very low stakes heart of the ocean. |
| 1:19.5 | Yeah. Yeah, very low stakes. Yeah, because he's just borrowing it, right? You didn't even buy it for her. It's a loner. We're not worried about where it comes from. And I think that it gets returned, you know, without a problem. I feel like it's Deus X necklace. But you're just like, no, it just ends up being a nice necklace. And then it snaps closed and she goes, ah ha ha ha ha ha. With all 5,000 of her teeth. And we love and worship every single one of them. We sure do. Hello and welcome to the Bechtel cast. My name is Caitlin Durante. My name is Jamie Loftus. And this is our podcast where we take a look at your favorite movies using an intersectional feminist lens and using the Bechtel test as a jumping off point for discussion. |
| 1:22.8 | Caitlin, what is the Bechtel test? |
| 1:28.9 | I'll tell you, it is a media metric created by dear friend of the show Alison Bechdel, |
| 1:31.5 | first appearing in her comic Dykes to Watch Out for. |
| 1:38.2 | It requires that for our standards, because there are many different versions of it, but for us, |
| 1:42.8 | do two characters of a marginalized gender have names? Do they speak to each other? |
| 1:45.5 | And is there conversation about something other than a man? And we particularly like it when it's narratively meaningful and not |
| 1:52.6 | just throw away dialogue that could be cut from the movie and it would make no difference. |
| 1:58.1 | So today we are covering, we're sort of like, I think this is sort of the theme |
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