This is exactly right.

Of the Law and Order franchises,

SVU is considered especially watchable.

We are the amateur detectives

who kind of investigate the vicious felonies

these episodes are based on.

These are our stories.

Dun-dun!

Dund!

The Dun, done. Hi, everyone, and welcome to That's Must Up and SvU podcast. I'm Kara Klank. And I'm Lisa Trager. Every week we talk about an episode of SvU, The True Crime, it's based on. And then we have a very cool guest from the episode that we like. We haven't hated any guests, to be honest. Yeah. I dare you to come on this podcast and let us hate you. Yeah. or did you think we hated someone? Let us know. Why is it starting so negative?

This is our holiday episode, Christmas, New Year, Winter.

Yes, jingle bells, everyone. I hope everybody's excited for, I don't know, at least some time off work.

I don't know if you're not, like, religious, which many of us are not, or you don't celebrate Christmas. But I hope, you know, it's just like the end of the year,

wind down, New Year's. I just always find it to be like a fun time. I'm, of course, traveling

cross-country with my two children, so it will be a nightmare, but, you know. But this year people seem festive as fuck because obviously last year was a little different.

So there does seem to be like I'm invited to a few holiday parties.

That's not really what happens to me.

I don't know.

Maybe it's an L.A. thing.

But I have holiday parties.

But there's not a lot of decorations.

My mom asks if the neighborhood is decorated and it's not.

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