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Data thresholds may vary. From KQED. Welcome back to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. We turn now to look

at how a far-fetched Republican campaign to recall Governor Gavin News, has managed to gain traction. A new poll

finds over a third of registered voters would support ousting him, and the recall campaign says

it's already gathered 1.3 million signatures. It has another month and a half to get to the

1.5 million valid signatures needed to trigger an election, thanks to an extended deadline due to the pandemic.

Joining me now to talk about how we got here, Scott Schaefer, senior editor for KQED's California Politics and Government Desk and co-host of KQED's political breakdown.

Thanks for joining us, Scott.

Hi, Mina.

Also with us is Angela Hart, a correspondent covering California health politics and policy for

Kaiser Health News.

Hi, Angela, Meadhaar.

Good morning, Mina.

So Angela, remind us how this recall effort got started.

I mean, there had been several initial attempts that failed, I thought.

Oh, sure.

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