Welcome back to the Tim Blocks podcast. This is Brian Anderson, the editor of City

Journal. Joining me on today's show

is Tevi Troy. Tevi is a senior fellow at the Ronald Reagan Institute. He's a senior scholar at

Yeshiva University Strauss Center and a former deputy secretary of health and human services

and senior White House aide. He's a regular city journal writer as well and he's the author

of five books on the presidency. These include Fight House, rivalries in the White House from

Truman to Trump, and shall we wake the president, two centuries of disaster management from

the Oval Office. His newest book, which we'll talk a bit about today, which was published several months ago,

it's called The Power and the Money, the Epic Clashes Between Commanders-in-Chief and Titans of

Industry, which is a great title. Tevi, thanks so much for joining us on the podcast again.

Thanks for having me, and thanks for doing 10 blocks. It really is a terrific podcast.

And I know you have rotating hosts and they always ask good and probing questions and you have a great guest.

So thank you.

Well, that's great.

So let's talk about this, which is your fifth book, I believe, on the presidency.

You've written for City Journal on presidential themes, including last summer when there was

obviously a lot to write about. I wonder, you know, to start, how do you go about choosing your

historical subjects and how did you get an idea to do a book on presidents and money?

Yeah, Brian, thanks for the question. And I got to say it's not easy because what I try and do,

and I've done this five times, as you said,

is write about something that nobody has covered before regarding the presidency and also

something that speaks to our current moment. And as you know, Brian, there have been books about

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