This is the intersection of faith and culture. We appreciate you joining us today on the

Wall Builders Show, taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and

constitutional perspective. And this is that one day of the week where you get to pick the topics.

So be sure and send your emails to us. Radio at wallbuilders.com. That's radio at wallbuilders.com. You might have a question about the Constitution or the Founding Father's history, application of the Bible to the issues of the day. Whatever you got, send it to us. We'd love to hear from you. I'm Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton, and I'm just going to start firing the audience questions at them.

First one comes from Rich, and he said, regarding impeachment and pardons.

Article 2, Section 2.1, says the president can issue a pardon except for cases of impeachment.

Can an impeachment be done post-pardon?

For example, President Biden had a bunch of pardons,

including for federal employees who could have been subject to impeachment. Can Congress now

impeach those employees? And if the Senate convicts, have them subject to prosecution for the

criminal offense, I realize it's probably just a thought exercise since the possibility of

having the Senate convict anyone is minimal. But who knows, perhaps the right party will have a supermajority after the next election. And so, guys, I want to clarify in the question. I guess I have a question. I've never thought about employees being impeached or removed because of impeachment. I would have thought that would only be someone in elected office or perhaps, I guess,

appointed office, but employee just, I guess, conjures up a different image in my mind. So you might

touch on that one as well. What do you guys think? Yeah, there's kind of a sequence here.

Generally, if you can prosecute someone, you generally don't impeach them. Now, the president's

an exception of that if something

happens in the term of office over the four years, which the Democrats tried twice to do. But

generally, you don't impeach someone and then convict them of offense after that. So impeachment is a way to

remove them from office. And generally, impeachment goes for folks that are not really directly

accountable to the people. So I was looking back historically. There's 22 times that the House

of Representatives has impeached someone and that's where it starts federally is the House

of Representatives has to bring essentially an indictment against someone.

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