This is disgrace, this is disgrace to our country.

I'm not surprised at what's happening. Basically they've started the campaign.

So the campaign begins. But the campaigns actually their campaigns have been going on for the last two and a half years.

So it's a shame. And the people understand when they look at it, they just say presidential harassment.

But that's okay.

Is that what people are going to see? That's why it's looking forward to talking to Lon Heath.

Because he knows he's been in war rooms. He's looked at poll numbers.

He knows how to read the mood. And I just wonder how people are going to react to that.

You were referring to Mr. Lon Heath Chen, host of the podcast, Crossing Lines with Lon Heath Chen, David and Diane Steffi Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution and Director of Domestic Policy Studies at Stanford University.

Lon Heath, how are you, sir?

Good morning. How are you, gentlemen?

We're excellent.

So we got the sense, I think everybody's got the sense that the Mueller report must be a dud.

And word must have gotten out to everybody as the Democrats have decided that the Mueller report's not the important thing.

The important thing is this tax situation. And you even got Eric Trump saying the Mueller report needs to be put out in its entirety.

So I think that nails that down. That's going to be a nothing.

So we're moving on to all this other stuff. Trump's taxes, his business, all that sort of stuff is, as Trump just said, American are going to react to that with, what the hell?

You're just doing anything you can to get rid of this guy. Is that going to backfire or not?

Yeah, I do think it's going to be a challenge for Democrats because the shifting of the goalposts as it were is not going to work in their favor.

I mean, the Mueller report, yes. I think the Mueller report, because Mueller's charge is so specific.

It charges specifically the question of Russian intervention in the 2016 election.

I think under that very narrow premise, it's going to be tough to nail too much more down on the president.

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