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And now, the world's most exciting podcast, The Savage Nation,

home of borders, language, culture.

And here he is.

New York Times bestselling author and national Radio Hall of Fame inductee, Michael Savage.

Today we're speaking with a dear friend of mine,

a very famous author, Jeff Rovin.

Whether you know or not, Jeff's written over more than 150 books, both fiction and nonfiction,

both under his own name, Jeff Rovin, and various pseudonyms or as a ghost writer,

including Roll the drums,

numerous New York Times bestsellers and over a dozen of the original Tom Clancy's op center novels.

Can we focus on the Clancy novels for one minute?

What would be the biggest hit that you wrote with Tom or for Tom?

That would be the first opt-center novel

because it was the first time that

the Clancy brand had been extended and I wrote it to appeal also to teenagers and women,

which were not. But didn't we have some big Clancy books that became movies that you wrote? No, not that I wrote. This

Op Center was a miniseries, but that was it as far as that was concerned. All right. Well,

let's not worry about Tom Clancy. What's important is Jeff Rovin and his good friend, Michael

the microphone. So, Jeff, let's start good friend, Michael the microphone.

So, Jeff, let's start with something that's not directly related to the borders,

language and culture issue.

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