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this is the john fugelsang podcast welcome back this is serious x-mm progress i'm John Fiegel sang. As you know, on his first day as president, the former host of Celebrity Apprentice signed a ton of illegal, unconstitutional executive orders trying to overturn the Constitution. And the politicization we've witnessed of civil servants

is completely illegal. But more importantly, it's undermining the public servants' ability

to work for all Americans because it's sowing distrust in civil servants. And that's been

the goal all along. Now, back in 2017, Democratic lawyers were not really prepared for all the

insane firehose of conservative policies. That's not the case anymore. A large coalition of

pro-democracy orgs has launched a multimillion dollar effort, and it's called Democracy 2025 to

guarantee swift legal challenges to all of this unconstitutional

Michigas. More than 800 lawyers at over 200 organizations are developing cases right now

and workshopping specific challenges that will most likely come up that they're calling priority

legal threats. So I'm so pleased to welcome back to the show, Sky Perryman,

president and CEO of Democracy Ford, a dynamite, nonpartisan national legal organization

that promotes democracy and progress and does it through litigation and regulatory

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