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Join us and be the difference in our world. Hello and welcome to Judge Whiticle, a podcast by the young hip and lay editors of America media

That lay part means we aren't Jesuits, but we work with them

Join us each week for a smart Catholic take on faith culture in the news, often over drinks. I'm

Ashley McKinless and I'm joined by Zach Davis. Happy inauguration day to you Ashley

McKinless. It's good to be with you. Yeah. Ah what a January this has been yeah it's it's 20 21 is the month

starts coming what is it the smash smash mouth the month starts coming and it

doesn't stop coming? It's what it feels like. Yeah but big big day for Catholics.

Yes indeed and we're gonna get into that but I feel like we should

time stamp this because we're generally in a pretty decent mood right now but and it feels

like the impending Civil War has been staved off for the moment, but in the event that it happens in the next two days.

We're recording this on Wednesday at 5 o'clock Eastern time.

So that's the to set the scene.

And who are we talking to about the inauguration today, Ashley? We are talking to Father Matt Malone. He is the editor-in-chief of America. He's been on the show

a couple times before, but we wanted to talk to

him because he's one a student of history and the first Catholic president in

particular John F. Kennedy, but he also has practical experience in politics before

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