Presidency for Sale
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4.3 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 2 September 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
From selling hats, NFTs and cryptocurrency, to stock boosts, swaps and golf-course deals made abroad, the Trumps are taking this presidency to the bank—for what looks to be billions. You can call it distasteful, but has it tipped over into “illegal”?
Guest: David Kirkpatrick, staff writer at the New Yorker.
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| 1:05.0 | For the last few months, David Kirkpatrick, over the New Yorker, has been counting. |
| 1:12.6 | Adding up a deal here, a deal there, all these deals made by the Trump family for the Trump family. |
| 1:21.0 | David started counting after reading this analysis in the Times, arguing that even though |
| 1:26.3 | President Trump was certainly monetizing his |
| 1:29.5 | public office, the general public didn't seem to care. |
| 1:35.1 | And this puzzled me, and I began to wonder if a clearer accounting of all that might make |
| 1:42.4 | more of a difference. |
| 1:52.3 | How long did it take you to count up how much money Donald Trump seems to be making off of the presidency? It took several months. And one of the most striking things to me is that the volume |
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