Hey everyone, Charlie here with Crime Lines. If you are loving my show, I have a podcast recommendation

for you. You need to check out the new podcast, Killer Minds. It is hosted by licensed

forensic psychologist Dr. Tristan Engels and Crimehouse's Vanessa Richardson. Each episode of Killer

Minds features a deep dive into the psychology of a notorious murderer,

from infamous serial killers to ruthless cult leaders, deadly exes, to terrifying spree killers.

Along with Vanessa's immersive storytelling full of high stakes, twists and turns, Dr. Ingalls will be

providing expert analysis of the people involved, not just how they killed, but why?

Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, Grisel de Blanco, aka the cocaine grandmother, if that's not enough of a hook.

These are just a few of the names they're going to be covering.

It's about so much more than the crimes.

It's about their minds.

I'm going to go ahead and play a quick sneak peek of killer minds.

And while you're listening, go search Killer Minds in your podcast app

and hit follow so you don't miss an episode.

From the moment he was born on November 12, 1934, Charles Manson's life was driven by deception.

His birth certificate listed Kathleen and William Manson

as his parents. But for years, Charles had no idea that William wasn't his father. That honor

most likely belonged to a con artist named Colonel Scott. Colonel was Scott's given first name, but if people assumed he was in

the army, he didn't bother correcting them. That's how he caught Kathleen Maddox's attention at a dance

club in Ironton, Ohio. He was 23. She was just 15. Kathleen was charmed by the older man she assumed was a military officer.

So when she discovered she was pregnant sometime in the spring of 1934,

Kathleen had no reason to doubt the colonel when he said he was being called away on duty.

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