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Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Presenting: Drug Story - On Xanax and Anxiety

Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Pushkin Industries

History, Society & Culture

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This episode comes to you from the new podcast Drug Story, which investigates the origins, workings and cautionary tales behind today's medical interventions. In this episode, host Thomas Goetz investigates the rise of Xanax, a drug used to treat anxiety that has become one of the world's most counterfeited and abused drugs. What happens when a drug works too well, and how do we manage anxiety in an environment that seems to fuel it? 

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This episode mentions death by suicide. If you are suffering emotional distress or having suicidal thoughts, support is available - for example, from the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline in the US, or the Samaritans in the UK on 116 123.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:10.7

Pushkin.

0:15.1

A warning before we start.

0:17.4

This episode mentions death by suicide.

0:20.3

If you're suffering emotional distress or you're

0:22.3

having suicidal thoughts, support is available. For example, from the 988 suicide and crisis

0:28.4

lifeline in the US, or from the Samaritans in the UK. Taking a look at world events,

0:36.9

anxiety is a fairly reasonable position to take, but when does anxiety

0:41.8

cross over from a rational evolutionary response to a devastating medical condition? And what happens

0:49.6

when the treatments work a little bit too well? This episode comes to you from the new podcast, Drug Story,

0:57.9

which looks at some of our most common conditions,

1:00.3

how they affect people, then examines the drugs that are supposed to help,

1:04.3

that come with their own list of side effects,

1:07.3

and of course, cautionary tales.

1:10.3

In this episode, on Xanax and anxiety, host Thomas Getz asks why the

1:16.2

decade of anxiety has lasted 40 years, steps back to ancient Greece, and explores how a drug

1:23.2

meant to help has become one of the most abused, most counterfeited drugs in the world.

1:29.2

Enjoy the episode, and if you want to hear more, you can find Drug Story wherever you get your podcasts.

1:40.2

I was in my apartment, and it was morning. My husband had left for work, I was waiting for the babysitter and I live in New York City and I thought I was dying. I thought I was having a heart attack. I started racing like I needed to get out of my skin and run away and the babysitter was late, so I put the kids in the stroller because I had

2:03.0

to get outside. I was afraid of dying in front of them. And once I was on the street, I ran into

2:09.0

the babysitter. I gave her the kids. And I ran into a friend who seemed to know what was going on

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