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The Spear

Preparing to Evade

The Spear

John Amble

Government, News

4.8642 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In 2011, Todd Angstman and his Special Forces team deployed to Gao, Mali, to provide training and assistance to the Malian Armed Forces. Gao was an important city, the hub of trans-Saharan trade, and had a combined arms task force deployed there, working with Angstman's Green Berets. The Arab Spring and subsequent uprising in Libya led to a decrease in security across northern Mali as displaced Tuareg tribesmen entered Mali. What was supposed to be a simple training mission took on more ominous tone as instability threatened the team. In this episode, Angstman recounts a fascinating tale of having to prepare for the worst-case scenario.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to The Spear, a podcast about the combat experience from the Modern War Institute at West Point.

0:09.8

More than 100 meters outside the village, you were definitely getting in a firepower.

0:14.1

My first patrol I took, we had a fire ambush.

0:18.9

And then it was just a huge explosion.

0:22.9

The primary threat was RKG3 grenades,

0:25.9

like machine guns and AK-47s, that kind of thing.

0:28.4

Small arms, fire, RPG fire.

0:31.2

Explosively formed penetrators.

0:32.9

Suicide bombs.

0:35.5

And then that's about the time that the third IED went off.

0:38.0

And that's when another grenade comes spinning over the side of the wall.

0:41.8

And it's at that point the IED chain detonates.

0:46.8

There was enemy in the wire.

0:48.3

There was all these Humvees on fire.

0:50.0

It was truly bullets flying from every angle that you could see. I opened the door and look outside and all I see is muzzle flashes.

0:59.0

There's a guy on top with a 240.

1:02.0

In the rounds, passed right past his head.

1:03.0

At that point, our instincts kicked in.

1:05.0

One pilot on the controls, the other pilot was using his M4 to engage single-man targets on the ground.

1:10.0

You're shooting at everything.

1:16.7

It was a fight.

1:19.0

Welcome to the Spear, the podcast about the combat experience.

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