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this is words matter with norm ornstein we've got the boats and screw the rest of you and dr cavita

pettel these might be some of the smaller moments, you know, with all the bombshells.

Didn't catch people's eyes. Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSR network.

Each week, Norm Ornstein and I will talk about the issues facing our country as we prepare for Norm what's shaping up to be quite an interesting Trump administration

and 20-25 Congress. Today, I think we're going to try to cover a number of topics, including

all things transition. And then in our members-only section, we're going to talk a little bit

in touch on the pardons,

pardons plural, hypothetical pardons, pardons that have actually happened, and maybe a little tone

setting on why we have pardons in the first place and why they kind of happen at the end of an administration.

Norm, how, I think in planning for today, it's fair to say, we had too much to talk about.

In medicine, we call it when we see pathological cells in a microscope, and there's so many, we say too numerous to count because it's just all over the microscope field.

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