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Preparing for a new era of warfare, Gary Waterfall, Air Vice Marshal

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Technology, Entrepreneur, Tech, Business, Hr, Sales, Uktech, Investing, Funding, Entrepreneurship, Marketing

56 Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Air Vice Marshal Gary Waterfall, a retired senior officer of the Royal Air Force, discusses the desperate need to ensure domestic defence is able to keep up with the advancements of technology, the surprising parallels of a career in the military and a career as an entrepreneur and the historical links between the military and the development of technology. 

  

Waterfall discusses the recent focus of the government on investing in advanced defence technology in the context of global threats across the world. 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Warfare is inherently and will remain a very, very human endeavour.

0:13.0

You can remote it, you can automate it as much as you wish, and you can remove the decision makers from the battlefield.

0:21.6

But ultimately, that decision will still need to be taken by a human sitting in the loop.

0:30.6

If you've got the best of technology and you are forced to go into conflict, which regrettably results in the loss of life.

0:42.7

Isn't it better that you can do that as swiftly as you possibly can, with the minimum loss of life

0:49.2

to then return a status quo where taking life is no longer needed.

0:55.0

I think you have to be very careful, listening completely to what Trump says and what President

1:03.3

Trump means underneath what he's saying.

1:06.4

He's a businessman.

1:07.4

I think he's providing an accelerant to the need for greater peace of security in Europe.

1:12.9

From the first time founders to the funds that back them, innovation needs different.

1:19.6

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1:29.0

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1:34.3

Discover more at www.h.hsbc InnovationBanking.com slash EN-GB.

1:45.0

Hello and welcome to the UKTM podcast, a weekly chat with the movers and shakers of the UK

1:50.8

tech industry and the destination for all things UK tech related.

1:55.3

I am your host, Jane Wakefield, and today I am joined by Air Vice Marshal Gary Waterfall CBE.

2:01.6

Welcome, Gary.

2:02.6

Good afternoon, Joan.

2:03.6

How are you?

2:04.6

I'm good, thank you, very good.

2:06.6

Now, I don't think, I might be wrong here, but I don't think we've had a military person on the pod to date,

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