Welcome back to the podcast.

This is The Ground Up Show.

I'm your host, Matt Diavella, and today my friend Chris Newhart is back on the show.

He's a director of photography and owner of Booklight Creative.

He's my first return guest, and he's here to help me answer listener questions about money, filmmaking, and freelance.

Stick around after the podcast to learn about how you can contribute to the show and keep it ad free. How the How does it feel to be back?

You know, I went to Jimmy Kimmel, but it was turned down, so I hit you up.

Oh, so yeah, they couldn't have you on.

Yeah.

Just a scheduling conflict.

They told me I had to get two episodes of this in first.

Oh, okay. I wasn't, you got, you don't have enough experience yet.

So I was like, let me get one more in.

Let's get on the ground up show for the second time.

You're the first repeat guest that I've had on the show.

I'm kind of like a test subject for you for this. It was like the first video one I did and you figured out all your like with a guest, right?

It was like where you did both or something like that.

Yeah.

Actually, when I think back to it, I was pretty nervous for our interview.

We've known each other for so long, but still I was like it was a new thing for me to have an interview to interview somebody on camera both of us, you know.

And you had like a dual platform idea for releasing it.

Like it's going to be an audio and it's going to be a video.

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