Goody, Jimans. This is a preview of an episode which paid subscribers are getting,

although they don't have to pay at the moment until February. If you haven't bothered

getting your own dedicated premium podcast feed, and if you want to hear all of today's episode,

then you can go to uncomfortableconversations.substack.com slash subscribe or slash listen if you want to be taken

directly to where you can generate your own personal premium podcast feed. Scott Adams is really

interesting. He's the creator of Dilbert, which is one of the most successful cartoon strips

in the history of the world. 2,000 newspapers it ran in, or runs in, not sure, in 65 countries, in 25 different languages.

And Scott Adams was sort of prescient about Donald Trump.

He noticed the strength of Trump's persuasion and persuasive powers back during

the primaries before Trump even had the Republican nomination. And so Scott Adams became something

of a kind of contrarian Trumper in the creative class, a sort of a lone person singing

Trump's, if not praises, then at least attributes

when others were shouting about how terrible a Trump presidency was going to be. And so this

conversation is one that I had in 2017. We've cut out most of the nonsense about me and him

arguing about what the Trump presidency was going to

look like, because that's kind of irrelevant. And we've lent into the portion of the conversation

that was about Scott Adams' life and his creative urge and his perspective on success, his vision

of what he wanted to do with his life and of how you can achieve what you want to do with your life

to enjoy this preview and do consider bothering to pull your wallet out of your pants and

become a paid subscriber. Otherwise, I will see you next week. Enjoy it. I just want to start with

who you are because a lot of people will have been aware of Dilbert

but may not have been aware of you as a human being until the Trump era.

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