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legends, and all other sundry free riders and freeloaders and hangers on, who I also love

very, very, very much. This is a treat from the archives.

Gee, there's a lot of good stuff.

I was going through some of the classic Zep's interviews

that are stashed away on various hard drives strewn about in boxes.

And there are some gems, which is so lovely to be able to share with you

and to feel like we're actually getting

an appreciation for after they've been merely collecting dust. Today, one of my favorite

comics. In fact, one of the funniest people I know rendered all the more funny because he's so

thoughtful about his craft and about the world and about what it means to be a conscious person alive on this

ball of rock circling a big flaming gas ball he's a great guy Mike Kaplan here i pick his brain

about his creative process about what comedy, about how he records sets,

like how does a professional stand-up comedian really do their craft?

And we wander off into our analyses of Jerry Seinfeld and Jay Leno and various different processes of people who we love, Louis C.K.

In spite of it all. And then expand into a conversation about life, about creativity, about procrastination,

about how does he actually take those little nuggets of ideas that come to him and make something of them,

turn them into a real, not just comedy set, but career, income, life.

So I hope you enjoy this.

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