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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Education, Society & Culture, Comedy, Self-improvement

4.5905 Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Is Barbie the triumphant feminist critique of modern society it claims to be? The dust has settled on the mega-hit, so Josh finds some time to weigh-in.

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0:00.0

Gooday, humans, welcome to safe space for dangerous ideas, and here's a slightly, ever so slightly dangerous idea.

0:09.4

How about we have a nuanced conversation about the most beloved and most controversial in some ways movie of the decade, Barbie?

0:20.1

Why, you ask, am I doing an episode about Barbie?

0:23.4

So many weeks.

0:24.9

Loat these many weeks since it first dropped, since I first saw it.

0:30.5

Well, I wanted the dust to settle.

0:32.3

I wanted to sit with it a little while.

0:33.7

I didn't want to jump on the bandwagon.

0:35.4

I didn't want to insert myself into what seemed to be some pretty crude criticisms of the movie by crybaby men who felt that it was, I don't know, too feminist or something. That's not the point that I'm making. But the point that I want to make is just that it's not feminist enough and not in the right way,

0:58.1

and it's not actually grappling with the issues that it thinks it's grappling with.

1:01.6

Now, one could say on this question,

1:06.2

why would you bother criticizing a movie that is made for 13-year-old girls and is just a comedy?

1:19.7

To the extent that Barbie gives 13-year-old girls a sense of the conundrum of womanhood that resonates with them, I think that's great, and I applaud it.

1:24.5

To the extent that it's only a comedy, I think that's great, and I applaud it.

1:31.3

But it's only a comedy, stop taking it so seriously line, is a little bit tired.

1:36.0

It's a line that I never liked John Stewart using when he was the host of the Daily Show.

1:41.2

You know, people would call him out for some particular political position that I felt he should have actually defended.

1:44.3

And he would say, this is a comedy show. We're on after a show where puppets make prank phone calls. I mean, you know, what do you want from me? I always felt

1:49.3

that was a dodge. He was an important figure in the politics and culture of the United States at the time,

1:55.6

and it behooved him in some way to acknowledge that. And similarly, with Barbie, The first two-thirds of the film could arguably

2:02.8

be a fun, candy-colored popcorn, high-heel extravaganza comedy. But the final act begins with a powerful

2:14.3

and very serious speech by the America-Ferara character about what it means to be a woman in the present day.

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