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Now here's Julie. Julie Bindle, welcome to Blockthinreported. It's a real pleasure to be here.

Well, I think most of our listeners are probably familiar with you, but for those who aren't, how would you describe your work? Who are you?

I'm a feminist campaigner. I'm a journalist and an author, but I suppose my main stick is campaigning to end men's violence against women and girls.

Is there dog-can you hear my dog barking in the back door, by the way?

I can, but since this is a premium episode, but we're very dog-friendly, let's just leave it.

Yeah, she always knows when we're doing recording always.

Moose, that's the same thing. What is it with dogs and podcasts?

Oh, yeah.

Okay. So one of the reasons I wanted to speak to you today is that you've been very involved in, let's say, the feminist response to the trans movement for many years.

I don't really know how to describe that.

And there appears to be a bit of a crap up going on within that movement, particularly in the UK at the moment.

We're going to talk about that later, but first, you have a very interesting personal history. Tell me about your introduction to feminism.

Well, I was young. I was 16. I grew up on a very kind of downtrodden working class community in the northeast of the country.

And I was a lesbian.

How were you when you realized that you were gay?

I suppose I had crushes on girls when I got to be about 13, 14.

And I was singularly unimpressed with the boys.

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