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Revealability and enthusiasm surrounding the Marcilio Fichino reading was low enough that

we decided not to have a full part three to that discussion, but Wes and I did have a

nightcap that we spent about half of reading additional quotes from Fichino.

You're going to hear a sample of that right now.

You're reminding me that this thinking about the idea that the tendency towards propagation

is, right, there's a drive element to it.

Of course, subjectively, or for animals, for instance, no animal says, oh, I want to reproduce

myself.

There's no subjective desire to reproduce.

And the same thing in humans.

There's just some people want to have kids, some don't, but generally people want to have

sex and they want to have sex because it's pleasurable.

And to call that a reproductive driver, urge is odd, right?

Unless you can make philosophical sense of that, right?

And this is a plenonic idea in the symposium, which is that love involves the urge to reproduce

in the presence of beauty or reproduce beautiful forms.

Strangely enough, we can't, that doesn't really work with sex very well.

Sexism is a kind of byproduct of sex, but the primary desire is for the sexual experience

itself.

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