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This is the partially examined life episode 324, part three discussing Plato's Cratalyst

and we're doing this close reading style, hey Wes, hey Mark, let's get into this

so the official line number is 428d or it is page 144 of the complete works PDF that we have.

Do you want to be Socrates and we can just read through this.

We could probably stop when necessary rather than whatever we want to spit off into something

irrelevant. Sure. And just to give background for people who are just coming in on close reads

and haven't listened to our catalyst episode on the partially examined life yet, although I recommend

you do. The question of the dialogue is whether there are correct names for each thing that

belong to them by nature and homogenies says no language is conventional naming is conventional

and Cratalyst has said actually there are natural names and Socrates has given a

defense of that throughout the dialogue by using etymology and by coming up with this crazy theory

that syllables and sounds of words imitate reality. All right, so now we at this end point

where there's going to be a huge plot twist and Socrates is going to reject a theory that he has

used to defend Cratalyst's position for 28d. Sure. But Cratalysts, I have long been surprised

my own wisdom and doubtful of it too. That's why I think it's necessary to keep reinvestigating

whatever I say since self deception is the worst thing of all. How could it not be terrible,

indeed, when the deceiver never deserts you, even for an instant, but is always right there with

you? Therefore, I think we have to turn back frequently to what we've already said in order to

test it by looking at it backwards and forward simultaneously as the aforementioned poet puts it.

It's homework. I forget which it's not right. Yep. So he didn't. Well, he does hazy odd too. But

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