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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

PREMIUM-Ep. 299: Philosophy in Shakespeare's "Timon of Athens" (Part Three)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

Casey, Paskin, Philosophy, Linsenmayer, Society & Culture, Alwan

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2022

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Mark, Wes, and Dylan conclude our discussion of Shakespeare's play. Chiefly, we talk about the exchanges about art in the play: How does art relate to life and to commerce?

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This is the partially examined life still episode 299, part three now down to three of us

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since that had to go, but we're still on the same day.

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One of the things that Jonathan had brought up was this that Shakespeare, I guess as he

0:31.0

does in many of his plays, is that he makes comments on the arts itself, right?

0:35.4

On poetry.

0:36.6

And so this whole beginning of the play, you got the poet in the painter and they're

0:40.7

sort of comparing and the poet.

0:43.7

We could read through some of that and when time evaluates the poet in the painting,

0:48.1

when the poet and the painter come back at the end, and he has words to say about them

0:52.7

there and they have some words to say about how because they've just heard that he has

0:58.6

some money, they're not going to actually write anything for him until that's confirmed,

1:02.8

they're just going to promise.

1:04.5

So they come in with a more cynical take and he is one of the interpretations that he

1:09.8

pretends to like what they've done.

1:11.8

But at the beginning, he seems to actually like what they've done and say some things about

1:15.3

how I think we quoted in part two that the drawing is captured the nature of the man

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or something like that.

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Yeah.

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And so that's Shakespeare's plays are often also reflections on art and what it means

1:24.6

to be an artist and they're often very explicitly so like in the tempest.

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