Hey, this is the partially examined life episode 299, part two, still discussing

time and of Athens by William Shakespeare, but we've had some personnel changes. Jonathan

Bate is no longer on the call and new people introduce yourselves. Sarah.

Hello, I'm Sarah Manton. I am still in a cupboard in New York City.

It's a very nice time to be in a cupboard. It's a nice cupboard. It's a little hot.

With a nice mic, you are one of the only guests. We had many guests, but many of them had,

there was something weird with their audio. Well, I was an engineer, but yours was very

nice. Thank you.

Okay, well, fingers crossed. It's going to work again today. Don't want to jinx it.

Seth, did you have a wacky intro or something that you didn't get to read in part one?

No, no. This is Seth Pascon here in Austin, Texas as usual. Did you guys both get to listen

to the part with Jonathan? Yes. It was great. No. Seth, look at his emails or his

slack. Okay. That's fine. We had left things. We were kind of debating whether what was going

on in the play was that the overreliance on money or reciprocity formalizes social relations

in a way that makes it impossible to have real connections with people. When it breaks

down, when reciprocity is not returned, that's like a deep existential crisis for a time

in. I wanted to return to that and see what you all thought of that idea. I finally finished

the edit last night. I've gotten through the whole play again, and there were things

in it that made me think he always wanted, if somebody gave to him, he wanted to give

them more. He wanted to keep, maybe it was a power thing that he wanted to keep ahead of

them. But he also, when he was owed money, he was like, look on the bright side. This

is a chance to test my friends. He said elsewhere, like friends, if they're not useful for

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