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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

PREMIUM-Ep. 292: Langer on Symbolic Music (Part Two)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

Casey, Paskin, Philosophy, Linsenmayer, Society & Culture, Alwan

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2022

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Concluding on Susanne Langer's Philosophy in a New Key (ch. 8-10). We continue discussing whether and how music is symbolic. Sing along with us!

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0:00.0

The partially examined life philosophy podcast Part 1 episodes are designed to be self-contained,

0:12.7

fully satisfying experiences in themselves.

0:15.6

But for hardcore philosophy fans, we record for another hour or so to release behind

0:20.0

our various paywalls to folks that pitch in to help us make this show.

0:24.1

What you're about to hear is a preview of one of these Part 2 episodes, and hope you

0:27.7

enjoy it.

0:28.7

You're listening to the partially examined life episode 292.

0:33.8

Part 2, finishing up Suzanne Lange's philosophy in a new key on art and the point of her project.

0:41.4

Maybe a good place to start is to make explicit this contrast between her and Scrutin, an

0:48.3

Edward Hanslick who in the mid 19th century wrote this on the musically beautiful.

0:54.6

So he's the guy that's they both take on as representative of the view that music is

0:59.0

pure.

1:00.0

I think this was in even Kant, right?

1:01.8

Kant was like, if you add lyrics and things, you're sort of defeating the purpose, you're

1:06.0

junking it up with other, but Hanslick was, so this is 60 years or whatever later than

1:11.3

Kant wrote this famous essay on that it is not expressive.

1:17.0

Music is autonomous.

1:18.0

It is its own thing.

1:19.6

And so Lange seems to want to kind of split the difference to say, well, he was right,

1:24.5

about a lot of stuff that it's way of symbolizing things is quite different than the way other

1:28.8

things symbolize things.

1:30.8

And so actually she's in this book in philosophy in a new key at least, this is quite a bit

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