I am George Knapp listening to that UFO podcast and having one hell of a good time.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast.

My name is Andy and I am joined for a breakdown of some newsy bits and listening questions by Dan.

Dan how are we? I am great I also think we should change the name of the breakdown to newsy bits.

Newsy bits that was that was the original working title and I decided against it at the last minute and went with the breakdown.

Listen, lots of stuff to get through and it is kind of bitty because there's quite a lot but nothing

massively substantial but what I've got is a lot of

listener questions I was just saying to you that I think bring up a lot of

different aspects of the news and different way shapes are forming and

we'll fly through what we can at the end as well folks so

thanks for everyone who got in touch with questions and stuff because it was quite last minute.

Dan first one I wanted to roll off off the bat it was short Kirkpatrick on with Manic von Renningkamp.

Manic is one of the reporters for the Hill. He was an analyst for folks who might not be

on social media for the US Department of the State's Bureau of International Security and non-proliferation, obviously, that rolls off the tongue.

And he was also an Obama administration appointee at the US Department of Defense.

So this guy knows what he's talking about.

Pretty well spoken on the UFO topic, rights really serious opinionated pieces too.

And Dan, I'd just let you say to you about, he had an interview

with Sean Kirkpatrick, former Arrow Director and I don't want to go too much into the interview or even Sean Patrick because it starts to get really old ground now with him.

I was surprised Sean Patrick done it because he's gone, he's rolling this is done. The only thing genuinely that I've taken away from this interview is he definitely to me comes across as a guy who was in a role at Arrow, he didn't really want to do.

I don't think from a, I might be wrong, but it could be from a conspiracy point of view.

He was put in there and to sabotage everything. I don't think he wanted to do it.

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