Hello, this is the game podcast from The Times and I'm Natalie Sawyer.

Grego Robertson is with me and Jonathan Northcroft joins us today.

Jonathan and Grego, great to have you on board. I'll check in with Gregor on just a moment,

but Jonathan, how are you keeping?

Very well, thanks. Yeah, I'm loving the weather and loving the Bundesliga and it's nice that things are coming back into view football wise.

Yeah, with regards to the Bundesliga have you always watched the Bundesliga or is it just because it's on and you're tuning in?

Yes ever since I was a little boy I was a Berlin fan.

Now I've always I've always quite enjoyed the Bundesliga. For some reason Aberdeen used to keep

getting drawn against German clubs in Europe. I suppose I knew a little bit about them even

as a kid and I've done a few pieces with Biomeunic and Leipzig over the years and I mean

there's just some cracking talent in that league so it is enjoyable.

I mean I must admit I watched Dortmund by another night.

Brilliant game from a technical point of view still doesn't look like the real thing but

there's enough to enjoy in it to make it worthwhile.

Yeah I agree with you on that one. Gregor have you been tuning into the Bundesliga?

Yeah I've watched that game as well and I, it's kind of, when it's the real kind of elite level teams like that, it's still a great spectacle, but, you know, it doesn't, it isn't quite the same, and it's, as we're going to come on to talk about I think it's intriguing some of the ideas that are being banned around now just to kind of try and banish that the fact that there's no fans in the stadium from your mind and so you can focus more on the

football but that was a great game great winning goal as well.

Certainly was I think it's a game that had everyone hooked that's for sure.

Gregor how is the the running going are we any closer to doing sub 21?

Yes up 21 I've got 20 minutes 32 seconds other day so sub 20s in my sights but I don't know it's

getting very hot now isn't that so I'm gonna yeah early morning runs but no yeah I'm improving. You are that's

brilliant it's not taking that long really to get these times down he's doing very

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