Prediction Markets with Rebecca Ungarino and Nick Devor
Better Offline
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4.6 • 687 Ratings
🗓️ 18 March 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
In this week’s Better Offline, Ed is joined by Rebecca Ungarino and Nick Devor of Barron’s to talk about the legalities of prediction markets, their effect on society, and how everyone is operating on the bleeding edge of financial regulations.
Nick Devor:
https://www.barrons.com/authors/nick-devor
Rebecca Ungarino:
https://www.barrons.com/authors/rebecca-ungarino
Story (from both of them!): JPMorgan Is Considering New Prediction Market Guidance for Employees
https://www.barrons.com/articles/jpmorgan-kalshi-polymarket-prediction-markets-rules-9f871a65
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:06.7 | Welcome to Better Offline. |
| 0:10.2 | I am, of course, your host, Ed Zittron. |
| 0:16.4 | Better Offline. Now, we're back in the studio in beautiful New York City, New York State. |
| 0:28.8 | You need to check out the show notes. |
| 0:30.1 | Of course, we have these beautiful fuck data center t-shirts, subscribe to my newsletter, |
| 0:34.7 | and so on and so forth. |
| 0:35.7 | But today joining me at Swaggage Claim are two of Barron's finest reporters, |
| 0:41.1 | the legendary Nick Devere who handles the gambling industry and the Wall Street reporting legend, |
| 0:45.9 | Rebecca Ungarino. |
| 0:47.4 | Thank you so much for joining us. |
| 0:49.7 | Now, Nick, we have had so many people emailing about prediction markets, and you cover the gambling |
| 0:55.4 | industry as well. How are they different? How are they not the same thing? Because they very |
| 0:59.6 | much seem similar. Yeah, I think from a consumer point of view, there's very little difference |
| 1:05.2 | between these products. You put money on the line. If your team wins, you get paid out. So from like a layman's |
| 1:14.0 | point of view, I think there's very little difference. However, there is a difference. In gambling, |
| 1:21.2 | you're betting against the house. So the betting firm sets the odds that you're betting against, right? |
| 1:27.2 | Whereas in a prediction market, |
| 1:29.2 | your counterparty is another trader. So, prediction markets are just essentially brokers that are |
| 1:36.6 | putting two traders together on one contract. And I can explain that in a little more detail if you |
| 1:41.7 | like. Please. So prediction markets sell what are called event contracts. |
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