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The Brian Lehrer Show

Prediction Markets and the War and Other Economic News

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

John Cassidy, an author and staff writer at The New Yorker, discusses economic fallout from the Iran war and his recent takes on economics and politics.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Laris Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. I want to play maybe the most interesting

0:18.0

soundbite from the Trump administration about the war since yesterday's

0:22.2

show. President Trump said the other day that the war will end when Iran unconditionally surrenders.

0:28.9

Did you hear that one? Unconditionally surrenders. But it doesn't seem to be mounting a ground campaign

0:34.4

or anything like that to actually get the Iranian government to unconditionally

0:39.5

surrender to the United States, like, say, Germany surrendered at the end of World War II

0:44.8

or the British and the Revolutionary War. So, press secretary Caroline Levitt, was in the awkward

0:49.4

position yesterday of having to kind of redefine unconditional surrender for 2026. Listen. Ultimately, the

0:59.2

operations will end when the commander-in-chief determines the military objectives have been met,

1:04.1

fully realized, and that Iran is in a position of complete an unconditional surrender, whether they

1:10.0

say it or not. Does the President still want Iran's unconditional surrender?

1:14.6

Well, when President Trump says that Iran is in a place of unconditional surrender, he's not

1:20.6

claiming the Iranian regime is going to come out and say that themselves.

1:24.6

What the President means is that Iran's threats will no longer be backed by a ballistic missile arsenal

1:30.3

that protects them from building a nuclear bomb in their country. I could make an empty threat, but if I have no actions to back it up, then it's an empty threat.

1:39.3

And so President Trump will determine when Iran is in a place of unconditional surrender, when they no longer

1:45.4

pose a credible and direct threat to the United States of America and our allies.

1:49.3

So unconditional surrender now apparently means weak in Iran's military, not to give up power

1:55.2

completely as the dictionary definition would have it.

1:58.4

Merriam Webster take note the president might invade you unless you

2:02.4

redefine as ordered. John Cassidy is with us, New Yorker staff writer, an author of books

2:08.4

including how markets fail, the logic of economic calamities and capitalism and its critics,

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