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Dynamic Voices for a diverse church. This is Pass the Mic.

Welcome to Pass the Mic. I'm executive producer Bo York and this week we've got something a little different and a little special for you.

A couple months back I ran a mini series in conjunction with a project I was working on at the time.

The project didn't pan out, but from the mini series came some great conversations.

It was mostly structured around storytelling, and I had a bunch of great conversations with folks from different walks of life,

who operate in different industries

but all connects with the importance of telling a good story.

During the series I was able to sit down both with Tyler and Jamar on two separate episodes, which we wanted to share with you this

and next week as something a little different.

So on this week's episode we're going to be talking about the challenge of crafting stories

with meaning, like a deeper meaning.

Like when you layer stories on top of stories with a purpose, because you want to get

the message across through the lens of the story and, okay, trust me, I'm not going to go full

inception.

But speaking of inception, let's talk about movies for a minute.

We all love a good movie, and we all really hate a bad movie.

If you think about how people will complain about a movie being a

soulless cash grab, a lot of times what they're talking about is that the movie doesn't

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