You're listening to a podcast on Catholic Saints. This podcast is produced by the Augustine Institute,

an Apostolate helping Catholics understand, live, and share their faith. Hello and welcome to Catholic Saints, the podcast about the lives of the saints and their legacy for the church and for us.

I'm Dr. Elizabeth Klein and I'm joined today by Dr. Jessica Ewell.

Today we're going to be something a little bit different.

Instead of just talking about the life of Philip Neri, we're going to talk about his life of prayer,

and specifically what he can offer us for our own prayer life as we learn to get closer to God.

So that's going to be really exciting. Welcome, Jessica. Thanks. I'm glad to be here.

So Dr. Ewell is a music professor, which is a little different from some of the boring theology people you hear on

Catholic Saints podcast.

Amazing. Amazing people.

So what kind of classes are the favorite classes for a music professor to teach?

So I'm a music person who loves theology and philosophy, and I love teaching classes that show

connections between philosophy, theology, and evangelization through culture.

So creating culture, infusing culture with truth and beauty.

Those are some of my favorite things to talk about.

That sounds great.

I hope that there's a tie-in with Philip Miri.

I guess we'll see.

There actually is. Okay. Wonderful. Spoiler. Spoiler. No, no. No foreshad. A tiny bit of foreshadow. We'll talk about that in a bit. Okay. We'll get there. So why don't you just give us a bit of a reminder who is St. Philip Neri. So we'll kind of just go back briefly over who he is. And then we'll get into maybe some of his more detailed stuff on prayer.

Absolutely. So he was born in Florence, and he was born around the time of some of the other

great reformers that we know about and live during a very similar time. He knew St. Ignatius of

Laola, for example. And he was actually canonized at the same time as St. Ignatius and St. Teresa of Jesus,

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