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ποΈ 3 September 2025
β±οΈ 96 minutes
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“I didn’t want to do this interview.” That’s how this interview opens up—and what follows is one of the most raw and vulnerable conversations we’ve ever had.
Sam shares:
πΆ Growing up as 1 of 5 kids in poverty with a drug-addicted father
π¨π©π§π¦ How his incredible adoptive parents changed his life trajectory
π His public divorce and the ripple effect it had on his ministry and professional world
ποΈ Why the system of church often leaves no room for pastors to heal, recover, or experience redemption
π₯ And how Laterras pushed him to places he wasn’t comfortable going—but needed to
This episode is about grace, truth, and the courage to tell your story—even when it hurts.
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0:00.0 | I didn't want to interview you. I get a lot of backlash. But listen, I got to be submitted to what God called me to do. |
0:06.7 | Who is Sam Collier? You know, I'm rediscovering that. My life started in poverty. My mother had five kids at 21. |
0:14.3 | Me and my twin sister were the fourth and fifth. Do you struggle with abandonment issues? |
0:18.2 | The Lord did a supernatural work with my adoptive parents. |
0:22.2 | They made adoption of fairy tale. |
0:24.1 | We were going to preschool telling everybody we were adopted. |
0:26.6 | And they were going to their parents saying, can we be adopted? |
0:29.2 | What I discovered from that is that I did not have an abandonment wound. |
0:32.8 | I had an attachment wound. |
0:35.1 | Everybody leaves me. |
0:36.3 | I don't leave them. |
0:37.0 | Which means I'll stay in something. |
0:39.2 | Way too long. What led to your divorce? It wasn't like one led with it, the other one did a |
0:45.1 | countersuit and y'all made a joint decision to go ahead and file? You know, it was a little more |
0:48.6 | complicated than that. For the sake of honoring her, there was a discussion and we landed on the |
0:53.4 | joint filing. |
0:51.3 | What is your hope when it comes to your ex-wife? Hope about what? I don't know. You tell me. I want to give real answers. That's what I want. I remember having a lot of hope. The divorce is so tumultuous that I forgot. I'm going to just be honest. And I have never said any of this publicly. There's an obvious hurt, right? I don't want to be the butt of a joke, |
0:53.4 | but I want her to be everything I don't want to be the |
1:11.1 | butt of a joke, but I want her to be everything God's call her to be because I remember when I met her, I saw it on her life. And she's the mother of my son. I want him to see her amazing. I want him to see what I saw? And I want to do the same. What does it mean to be Sam 2.0? And I get it because you're held to a higher standard. |
1:28.1 | I've apologized to the public and my commitment to the public is to be better than I've |
1:32.1 | ever been. |
1:32.8 | But if we are believers, there is no evidence in the text of repentance, grace, restoration, |
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