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Prayer, Mystery, and Suffering: What Is Prayer Really For?

Voxology

Voxology

Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2018

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

What if prayer isn't just about getting answers? Mike and Kevin take on one of the most raw, painful, and universal questions in the life of faith: why pray when it doesn’t seem to change anything? In this vulnerable episode, they dive deep into an honest question from a listener experiencing unimaginable grief and crisis of faith following the sudden death of his mother and a devastating cancer diagnosis for his father. Drawing from scripture, theology, personal experience, and the teachings of Dallas Willard, the conversation explores the nature of prayer, suffering, and trust in a God whose ways are often mysterious—but never distant.

Key Takeaways:
• Prayer as Participation, Not Transaction – Understanding prayer as part of our vocation to co-rule and create with God, not just a way to get our requests answered.
• Training for Reigning – How spiritual disciplines including prayer shape us for God’s future kingdom and teach us to be trustworthy with power.
• Does Prayer Really Change Things? – Wrestling with what the Bible means when it says things like “you have not because you ask not,” and what that implies about God’s interaction with our prayers.
• The Mystery of Unanswered Prayer – Confronting the painful, disorienting reality when the faithful suffer or prayers seem ignored—and why simplistic answers (e.g. lack of faith or “God’s plan”) fall flat.
• Lament as Faith – How wrestling with God and staying in relationship—even in doubt—is itself a form of deep trust.

Resources Mentioned:
• James 5:16 – "The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective."
• Dallas Willard – Writings on spiritual disciplines and the kingdom of God
• Revelation 21–22 – A vision of the restored vocation of humanity in God's future kingdom
• The Book of Job – A profound reflection on undeserved suffering and unsatisfying answers
• Daniel 10 – A mysterious glimpse into spiritual warfare and delayed answers to prayer
• Previous Voxology Episodes on Suffering, Hell, and God’s Will – VoxologyPodcast.com

Join the conversation, wrestle with the hard questions, and rediscover the purpose of prayer not as a means to an end—but as a pathway to deep relationship, trust, and spiritual formation.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Prayer is much bigger than just the process of asking for something and being told yes or no.

0:19.2

Hey everybody, Mike here.

0:22.2

Thank you so much.

0:24.1

Welcome to the Vox podcast.

0:26.6

Vox, if you don't know, is Latin for voice.

0:30.8

And we think Jesus of Nazareth is God's voice to the world.

0:39.0

But while we think that is true, we also think there's been a very unholy wedding between, I know, I just got a text message.

0:39.4

Hold on.

0:40.2

Let's see who it's from.

0:42.2

Oh.

0:43.6

Oh, my realtor.

0:45.0

Oh, my realtor.

0:45.5

No.

0:46.2

Oh.

0:48.3

No, but Beth.

0:49.8

Beth is just kind of a rock star.

0:50.9

Kind of.

0:51.2

Yeah.

0:51.8

How about is?

0:52.2

Yeah, I know.

0:53.1

Well, that's very true.

0:54.8

Now, obviously, Kevin.

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