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It seemed back then like it was miles and miles between my grandmother's ramshackle, as I call it, and my

parents more modern ranch.

But really, it was probably only about a quarter of a mile if that, you walk the road if you just walk through the

pasture that separated us really more of a holler than anything if you walk that

it was even shorter but that was the that was the more fun walk to leave the beaten path to lead the road and to

find yourself in that pasture which then offered all sorts of opportunities for fun

distraction so one of those distractions was was playing dead and I got the idea from books really and understanding what vultures were. Back then we call

them buzzards. That was the country term for for a vulture but I wanted to see them more closely I

wanted to sort of understand who those birds were and so I would play dead. I would...

Because if Olcher would, if you play dead, they might come close to see if they might have you as their breakfast.

Yeah, they, you know, breakfast, brunch, dinner, whenever I was out there roaming Phoebe it was just this thought as a

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