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The Hartmann Report

PRACTICAL SOLDIERS AGAINST INEQUALITY

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Thom Hartmann

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🗓️ 26 December 2019

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Nasreen Sheikh tells her story, and how her group- 'The Empowerment Collective' is saving young women in Nepal from poverty and cruelty by providing a fair price for women's handicrafts, available through their website at LocalWomensHandicrafts.com.

Plus Andrew Behar, CEO of 'As You Sow', joins Thom to discuss share-holder activism and the dark side of Facebook.

Thom reads from 'The Entrepreneurial State' by Mariana Mazzucato- she argues that 'more state, not less' has always been the key to economic development in the United States historically, and today in the developing world.

And Thom also reads from 'Measuring What Counts: A New Dashboard for Well-Being' by Jean-Paul Fitoussi, Joseph Stiglitz, and Martine Durand.


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0:00.0

This is the Tom Hartman Program.

0:05.0

Our book today in the Tom Hartman Book Club

0:08.0

is The Entrepreneurial State by Mariana Mazzuccato and this is from the introduction titled Thinking Big

0:15.9

again. Across the globe countries including in the developing world look to

0:20.4

emulate the success of the US economy. In doing so they look at the power of

0:25.0

quote market-driven and quote mechanisms versus Europe or the ex-Soviet Union. But the United

0:35.0

States is not what it seems. The preacher of the small state free market doctrine

0:40.8

has for decades been directing large public investment programs

0:45.1

in technology and innovation that underlie its past and current economic

0:49.8

success. From the internet to biotech and even shale gas, the US state has been the key driver

0:56.5

of innovation-led growth, willing to invest in the most uncertain phase in the innovation cycle

1:02.1

and let business hop on for the easier ride down the way.

1:06.1

If the rest of the world wants to emulate the U.S. model, they should do as the United States

1:09.8

actually did, not as it says it did, more state, not less. A key part of this lesson

1:16.4

should be to learn how to organize, direct, and evaluate state investments so that they can

1:21.5

be strategic, flexible, and mission-oriented.

1:25.0

Only in this way will top minds find it an honor to work for the state.

1:29.9

This is something that needs to be understood not only by the rest of the world but in the

1:33.1

United States itself where the dominant political narrative is endangering funding for future

1:38.4

innovation and economic growth. In 2013 U.S. government spending for basic research fell below what it was a decade earlier,

1:46.8

and most likely will continue to fall due to congressional gridlock over the public budget.

1:51.8

Rather than static discussions about the size of the deficit,

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