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Hello, I'm Gabby Dunn and this is Bad with Money.

A podcast about finances and feelings where we don't talk down to you and we're all learning together.

Creative people and money.

The biggest question I've had as someone in the arts who also needs to have money to live is how?

Just how?

When I first got to New York City and then especially in Los Angeles, I truly did not know how people did it.

I'm serious, that's how naive I was. I really could not figure out how people made short films or went to so many auditions or had so much time to write without having a day job that ate up all their time.

I really didn't know.

I had to figure out that people come from money.

That there were people that didn't need to work because they came from generational wealth or their family covered their rent or even were doing jobs that they felt shame around and so they just didn't talk about them.

It truly did not occur to me that people were lying about working in retail or at restaurants in order to seem like all they did was show business stuff.

And especially it didn't occur to me that people were doing sex work until a potential guest on Bad with Money in 2016 told me they couldn't come on the podcast because a large portion of their money came from escorting.

So I just assumed that everyone who was working in Hollywood was able to work harder than me.

And other friends I've asked to come on the show felt shame in the opposite way. They didn't want to admit their parents funded their artistic endeavors.

People's money to make their art came from places other than just they are working harder and are smarter than me, which is what I thought for years.

By the way, I was working day jobs and doing sex work, but I had some idea that I was the only one struggling and like I was convinced that I was somehow deficient, which is what the taboo of talking about money does to all of us.

So if I had known any of this, maybe I wouldn't have hustled as hard at the expense of my mental health.

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