Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now, and you're listening to the Flying Free

podcast, a support resource for women of faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden

emotional and spiritual abuse.

Welcome to episode 112 of the Flying Free Podcast. I wish you could see me right now.

I've got this pop filter that broke. You know, it's supposed to go in front of your microphone so that your

microphone doesn't pick up all of the peas and you know the things that use the

consonants that pop, okay? And it broke, so I have another one coming but in the meantime I have to literally

hold this thing with my hand. So it looks really professional. I should have someone

take a picture of this. Okay so anyway I just want to have a picture of this.

Okay, so anyway, I just want to have a heart to heart with you today.

I'm imagining that we are sitting in a living room with our coffee and our tea.

I'm a tea drinker now. I don't really know how it happened. Actually that's not true. I kind of know how it happened, but I mean I

drank coffee every morning starting in college and I loved those flavored cremers like the unhealthy ones, you know, vanilla and caramel and hazelnut.

And of course when I was a mom with 500 children coffee is a staple right okay

it was like my little oasis every day and then I wanted to lose some weight because of the 500 children and I learned that flavored

creamers in all of me that was educating myself in how to lose weight.

And I learned that the flavored creamers weren't helping me so I

switched to full-fat cream and Stevia and that took some getting used to.

Well not the full-fat cream that actually took zero getting used to. Well not the full fat cream that actually took zero getting used to. I

immediately took to that like a baby to the well you know what I mean. So anyway

that became my new staple and as I grew older I found that I really liked the

the strong coffee with my cream and Stevia and I also discovered that I

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