Powering Africa with Bitcoin Mining with Erik Hersman & Marshall Long - WBD675
The Peter McCormack Show
Peter McCormack
4.7 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2023
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
Erik Hersman is the co-founder of Gridless, & Marshall Long is the Head of Architecture for Rhodium Enterprises. In this interview, we discuss Bitcoin in Africa: the need, the use and the support the wider community can give. We also talk about energy poverty in Africa, Bitcoin's role in supporting mini-grids, and how Gridless's business model & Marshall's financing plan accelerate this process.
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There are around 800 million people in the world without access to electricity. Around 75`% of those live in Sub-Saharan Africa. Given populations are distributed over vast areas in Africa, and governments have limited access to capital, grid connections can be economically unviable. But mini-grids are also challenging because of the difficulty of getting a return on the high initial investment costs: demand in these poor communities takes time to build.
To date, the only option has been well-meaning but unsustainable charitable ventures that can have unintended negative second-order effects. But then Bitcoin mining showed how curtailed energy can be monetised, and a problem has suddenly become an opportunity. It is estimated Africa could produce 2.5 million terawatt hours of wind and solar energy per year (the US uses around 4,000 terawatt hours of energy per year). The business opportunity is huge.
In the fascinating interview, Eric Hesman of Gridless discusses how his company is partnering with communities in need of energy to provide subsidised power. Marshall Long sets out how his family office is helping with much-needed finance for energy projects in Africa that utilise Bitcoin mining. Together they set out the transformational impact such initiatives could have for the continent.
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| 0:00.0 | There's a new way to think about this. There's a new paradigm for energy in Africa, I think, now. |
| 0:06.0 | You bundle the mini-grids and the Bitcoin mining together, and you get your return on investment in seven years instead of 20. |
| 0:12.9 | Or it's ever, because they weren't sustainable. |
| 0:15.5 | Hello there, how are you doing? |
| 0:17.0 | Happy Friday. |
| 0:18.0 | Have you had a good week? |
| 0:19.3 | You keep him busy, keeping out of trouble. |
| 0:21.4 | Right, I'm gonna be heading back out to the U.S. in a month. |
| 0:24.0 | Me and Danny are going to be heading to Nashville for the Lightning Conference. |
| 0:27.0 | And we're going to out to Austin for a few days, and then I'm going to be off to Argentina to make a film. |
| 0:31.0 | Another film for the Bono Series Series can't wait for that. |
| 0:33.7 | Anyway, welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast, which is brought to you by Iris Energy, |
| 0:37.4 | the largest Nasdaq listed Bitcoin miner using 100% renewable energy. |
| 0:41.5 | I'm your host, Peter McCorm McCormack and today I've got Eric |
| 0:44.0 | Herzman on the show he's from gridlers and he's joined by my good friend a |
| 0:47.5 | Bitcoin miner Marshall Long who was recently in my other film I |
| 0:51.2 | follow the money film I talked about |
| 0:53.2 | Bitcoin mining now the work Eric and his team |
| 0:56.0 | gridless are doing out in Africa is incredible and I spoke to Marshall |
| 0:59.9 | about this when we made the film and he's been out there himself |
| 1:02.3 | so whilst we were in Miami, |
| 1:04.4 | Danny and I said let's get them two together. So very cool. Me and Danny are going to try and get out to Africa |
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