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Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics, power,

and prejudices. This year, 2024, is an election year in America,

a presidential election year. And so we will be doing two podcasts a week, rather than our usual one,

because we want to and because we know you can't get enough Americano in your life.

I am delighted to be joined by Robert Bryce, who is an energy writer,

and some people call him the Joe Rogan of energy journalism.

And Robert has produced a docu-series called Juice, Power Politics and the Grid, which is a very interesting look

at America's Energy Network and the politics that guides it, which is available for free

on YouTube, and I would advise all American-al-no listeners to have a look at it.

Robert, give us a little bit of background into Juice, why you did it, what's the

driving force behind us and so on. Sure. Well, thanks. Great to be back with you, Freddie.

Always pleasure to be back on a Neamericana podcast, and great to see in London a few months

ago. So, yes, the genesis of this project, I made a documentary with my colleague Tyson Culver,

which were released in 2019 called Juice, How Electricity Explains the World.

And I thought I was done making documentaries.

And then three years ago, we were both blacked out here in Austin, our respective homes,

due to Winterstorm Uri.

And then in the aftermath of that Texas blackout, we learned that, in fact,

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