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Fox. One, it's always been simple. In retrospect, it was never complicated. It was always about one thing. Power. Two, the bell tolls

for Urban Meyer, and there's a faint ringing of the bell for the NFL.

Three, a fascinating conversation

with the author of hate crime hoax

about Jussie Smollett and what exactly is race.

It's the Wilcane podcast on Fox News podcast.

What's up and welcome to Friday, T. I F. We have a very big episode of the Wil cane

podcast for you today. I have a

fascinating conversation with a political scientist, a professor at Kentucky State University.

Wilford Riley, the author of Hate Crime Hokes.

He's the perfect person to talk to in the wake of the

juicy smolier verdict for perpetrating a hate crime. But the conversation

with Professor Riley went beyond Jussi Smollett.

It went beyond hate crimes.

When I asked him exactly, what is race?

How far away are we from trans racialism and what it truly means to be racist?

Stick around to the end of this episode for that fascinating conversation and if you are so inclined and you think I deserve it, I will greatly appreciate that Christmas tip of going to Apple, Spotify, Fox News Podcasts, wherever you get your audio

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