Hello, my name is David Rundsenman and this is Talking Politics.

This week we're going to bring you something a little bit different.

These are some conversations that we recorded at the weekend,

an event we had here in Cambridge, which was about power in the digital age.

It's about the world of Facebook, Zuckerberg, Google,

all of those incredibly rich, often very young men

in Silicon Valley, do they really rule the world?

We're gonna hear a few different takes on that question

from some of the most interesting people studying it. I'm gonna tell hear a few different takes on that question from some of the most

interesting people studying it. I'm going to tell you a few things that I learned at this event,

and I learned a lot. One was that in California now, if you sign a pre-up before you get married,

you have to list your intellectual property along with everything else. So with the

houses and the cars and the kids and the dogs, you also have to put down your app ideas, your dog

walking app, or whatever it is, because when the marriage breaks up, that's what people are

going to fight about now. Who owns the app? It was a very buzzy event, as you'll hear,

there were a lot of people there and a lot of chat. We grabbed some of the speakers over lunch,

pulled them out, some of them while they were still eating, to ask some questions. So you'll hear

a bit of the noise in the background, but this is right at the heart of the event.

My name is Lawrence Quill. I'm from England originally, but have lived in Silicon Valley for 15 years,

and I'm a professor of political theory at San Jose State University. So you've seen the people who

run that valley and now run the world, change their worldview. And one of the things that they

always used to say was they were

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