Hello, my name is David Ronserman and this is Talking Politics.

This week we're going to bring you something a little bit different.

These are some conversations that we recorded at the weekend, an event we had here in Cambridge

which was about power in the digital age. It's about the world of Facebook, Zuckerberg,

Google, all of those incredibly rich, often very young men in Silicon Valley. Do they

really rule the world? We're going to hear a few different takes on that question from

some of the most interesting people studying it. I'm going to tell you a few things that I

learnt at this event and I learned a lot. One was that in California now, if you sign a

pre-nup before you get married, you have to list your intellectual property along with

everything else. So, with the houses and the cars and the kids and the dogs, you also have

to put down your app ideas, your dog walking app or whatever it is. Because when the marriage

breaks up, that's what people are going to fight about now, who owns the app. It was

a very busy event, as you'll hear, there are a lot of people there and a lot of chat.

We grabbed some of the speakers over lunch, pulled them out, some of them while they were

still eating, to ask some questions. So, you'll hear a bit of the noise in the background,

but this is right at the heart of the event. My name is Lawrence Quill. I'm from England

originally, but have lived in Silicon Valley for 15 years and I'm a professor of political

theory at San Jose State University. So, you've seen the people who run that value and

now run the world change their worldview and one of the things that they always used

to say was they were going to rescue us from big brother. That was the famous ad, the

Apple ad. So, what happened to that idea that they were going to rescue us from big brother?

Well, I think it's a combination of different elements. I think for a long time there

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