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Italy has won an election and will almost certainly become its next prime minister. This is an indicator of a wider phenomenon of populist

and far-right nationalist leaders finding success at the polls in various European countries. The case study of Hungary is a fascinating one,

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To help us understand this phenomenon, I'm delighted to be joined by Professor Jolt Enyadi, who is a professor at the Central European

University in Hungary and also a senior researcher at their Democracy Institute.

Jolt, welcome.

Thanks for having me.

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