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Good morning again, everyone.

Here is a stark statistic just released by researchers at Columbia University and the Anti-Poverty Organization, Robin Hood.

The stat is this.

More New Yorkers are living in poverty today than at any point in the last decade.

Again, that's according to a new analysis from the Anti-Poverty Organization, Robin Hood, as well as Columbia University.

Robin Hood has been tracking economic hardship in New York City since 2012.

Their latest report finds that, as of 2024, 26% of New Yorkers, roughly 2.2 million people,

including about 450,000 children, were living in poverty.

And this data, more than a quarter of the city's residents under the poverty line,

predates the Trump administration sweeping cuts to the federal safety net, which have just started

to be implemented. So let's talk to the CEO of Robin Hood,

Richard Bury. One of his jobs before that, for which he was on the show at the time, was as New York

City's deputy mayor for his strategic policy initiatives. In that role, he was a key architect

of pre-K for all, which is an anti-poverty program, as much as it is an education program, under Mayor Bill de Blasio. Mr. Burry, always good to have you. Welcome back to WNYC. Likewise. Always good to be with you. Good morning. And listeners, help us report this story. Are you one of the 2.2 million New Yorkers living in poverty, how do you get by? Did your finances go downhill

in recent years, adding to this unhappy trend, this record for the city as a whole? 212, 433, WNYC,

212, 433, 9692. You can also chime in if you're a social work or a teacher,

healthcare provider, or any other type of direct service professional working with people

experiencing poverty and can help us report this story. 212-433-9-692, call or text.

And Mr. Beer, just to be clear, how do you define poverty for the sake of your report?

Of course.

So we use something called the Supplemental Poverty Measure, which is a much more effective

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