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Heal Squad x Maria Menounos

Potluck Saturday: The Michael Jackson Debate, Human Complexity & Why We Don’t Allow People to Be Flawed Anymore

Heal Squad x Maria Menounos

Maria Menounos, Heal Squad

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to another Potluck Saturday! This week we get into the conversation surrounding the new Michael Jackson movie and the bigger issue underneath it… why modern culture seems unable to allow people to be complicated, flawed, talented, contradictory, and human all at once. We talk about the difference between understanding someone and endorsing everything they’ve ever done, the way social media has flattened people into heroes or villains, and why nuance seems to be disappearing from public conversation. From Michael Jackson to celebrity culture, fame, cancellation, and public perception, this episode explores what happens when a society loses the ability to hold two truths at the same time. We also get into the psychology of fame, why so many gifted people are also deeply wounded, and how our discomfort with other people’s flaws often reflects our discomfort with our own. Along the way, we touch on pop culture, Hollywood, social media, self-improvement, and the pressure to appear perfect in a world that rewards outrage over honesty. Larry Bird teaches us that we generally only empathize with others that have had problems similar to ours. As always more to come.... HEAL SQUAD SOCIALS IG: https://www.instagram.com/healsquad/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@healsquadxmaria HEAL SQUAD RESOURCES: Heal Squad Website:https://www.healsquad.com/ Heal Squad x Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HealSquad/membership Maria Menounos Website: https://www.mariamenounos.com My Curated Macy’s Page: Shop My Macy’s Storefront EMR-Tek Red Light: https://emr-tek.com/discount/Maria30 for 30% off Airbnb: https://www.airbnb.com/host AG1: drinkag1.com/healsquad  ABOUT MARIA MENOUNOS: Emmy Award-winning journalist, TV personality, actress, 2x NYT best-selling author, former pro-wrestler and brain tumor survivor, Maria Menounos’ passion is to see others heal and to get better in all areas of life. ABOUT HEAL SQUAD x MARIA MENOUNOS: A daily digital talk-show that brings you the world's leading healers, experts, and celebrities to share groundbreaking secrets and tips to getting better in all areas of life. DISCLAIMER: This Podcast and all related content (published or distributed by or on behalf of Maria Menounos or http://Mariamenounos.com and http://healsquad.com) is for informational purposes only and may include information that is general in nature and that is not specific to you. Any information or opinions provided by guest experts or hosts featured within website or on Company’s Podcast are their own; not those of Maria Menounos or the Company. Accordingly, Maria Menounos and the Company cannot be responsible for any results or consequences or actions you may take based on such information or opinions. This podcast is presented for exploratory purposes only. Published content is not intended to be used for preventing, diagnosing, or treating a specific illness. If you have, or suspect you may have, a health-care emergency, please contact a qualified health care professional for treatment.

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0:00.0

I'm on a journey to heal and get better in all areas of life, and I want to do it with you.

0:07.6

Welcome to Heal Squad by Maria Menounos, where we improve and heal all parts of our lives, most importantly, our health.

0:15.2

Heal Squad by Maria Menuno's, your life improvement series starts now.

0:49.3

Thank you. your life improvement series starts now. Yes, welcome to another edition of, I was going to say hot-buttered Saturday, but... Putluck Saturday.

0:51.3

I like hot butteruck Saturday. I like hot-buttered Saturday.

1:01.8

They're just really kicking in, don't they?

1:04.1

You know what?

1:09.7

Sometimes I wish I had maybe 10 years.

1:11.4

I was 10 years younger.

1:12.0

Yeah.

1:15.6

Because I would be enough of an MP to find one of them at least.

1:16.4

Oh, yeah.

1:21.3

Tell me about that day when you, well, who put the dance, who put this dance together?

1:22.2

Anyway, yeah.

1:29.3

Little potluck's adding yesterday we were, I asked you to put a pin in something.

1:30.7

What was, where did we put a pin in?

1:32.6

It was perfectionism.

1:34.8

Ah, and the Michael Jackson movie.

1:35.2

Yes.

1:42.8

Yeah, I did see, uh, it's funny because I'm, I'm down helping my client.

1:43.4

Yeah. To say it like your New York, like all New York agents do.

1:46.5

My client.

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