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I think I can say without equivocation that Abraham Josephine Reisman is the authority on Vince McMahon.

She has written a New York Times best-selling book, Ringmaster, Vince McMahon, and the

Unmaking of America.

It's the definitive biography of the WWE co-founder who at the moment has been winning, money,

winning at life, immune from all consequences, gets to make all of the

money and have all of the power and very few consequences. And now there is what I believe is a truly shocking lawsuit and not everything

in all lawsuits is true but this person has a history Vince McMahon does of truly

dreadful awful behavior and yet still I was totally shocked by some of what it is that I was reading.

So Josie, thank you for joining us.

Were you?

Were you shocked by these lawsuit details?

You know, it's hard to find the right words for any of this.

And I think I would say I was shocked but not surprised if that makes any sense.

The details in this lawsuit,

which the media hasn't even fully reported

because a lot of these things you can't say

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