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I think she was in the movie about that really big shark.

No, not her, the florist.

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Into its quickbooks. Welcome in to the Lions 24-7 podcast, our first post-game podcast of the 2020 season. You guys waited a long time

for this opportunity to have a discussion for Sean and I after a Penn State

football game. Certainly didn't think it would end up like this. We have a ton to go over, Sean. We spent a lot of time talking before we hit the record button, just trying to figure out what we just watched because I'm looking through my notes that I was taking for post-game

coverage for this podcast throughout the game and so much of it seems irrelevant

because of where this was not

where this game turned again and then were it turned again.

Your first point was right.

We waited 10 months and this is what we got and this is a

this was not ideal.

This was not an ideal from a Penn State performance standpoint.

This is not an ideal from a Penn State performance standpoint. This is not an ideal for a finishing standpoint, the end of the game actually.

So yeah, we're here Penn State's own 1, 3635, a loss to Indiana on the road and now you dug yourself a hole and you know you found

I think you found out quite a bit about this football team and not particularly great

things about this football team so we'll start at the end. Obviously that's where everybody's going to you know you talk about these notes that you have throughout the game and I mean we were talking about stuff that happened in the fourth quarter and you were just kind of spacing on it because it seemed irrelevant because of how the game ended.

And to me there's two things you got to do here. You got to separate the two main points. You got to say, hey, Penn State didn't deserve to win this game. I mean they were in a spot to win this game. They, you know,

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