All right, everybody, welcome back to another edition of the Untitled Jeff Buck podcast.

I'm your host, Jeff Gluck, and I'm standing outside the grandstands at Richmond Raceway with Matt Gross, who is not a media member.

I usually do these with media members, but he's an extremely knowledgeable race fan, who I've gotten to know over the years.

And I've been wanting to have him on the podcast for some time.

He always comes to this Richmond race.

And so Matt, you are here with me.

How are you?

I'm great.

I've been dreaming about this moment since this podcast started in 2017.

Well, here you are and you probably thought it was going to be a little bit better because in full disclosure you're

wearing a Miller light jersey shirt type thing and it looks for a while like your guy was going to

win and you were going to actually see him go to victory lane and get all excited about that and

that's not how it worked out because his nemesis Kyle Bush ends up going to victory lane anyway

so first of all,

your emotional gut instinct reaction to that. You've ruined my ability to fake bias.

Okay. You know, I went into this race not expecting Brad to win. Having been a NASCAR fan since

1990, I think this three race winning streak he's been on is one of the most unlikely three race winning streaks I've ever seen.

Usually a car that goes in that kind of streak has more speed.

And he's generally had about a fifth place car, which I think he had today.

I think that last run, he drove beyond the limit of what the tires could have held because he knew at this stage it was win or nothing.

So while I can serve them and get a fourth or fifth place finish, run hard, hope for another cost,

and went 30 to go and try again.

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