All right, everybody. Welcome back to another edition of the Untitled Jeff Gluck podcast.

I'm your host, Jeff Luck, and today it's another post-race version of the podcast here at Phoenix Raceway,

and I am joined once again by John Haverland of the New Mexico Motorsports Report.

John, how are you?

I'm great, and it's ISM raceway now, Jeff.

You just have Phoenix. Oh, gosh, I've been so good about that too. It is, yeah, oh, darn, that

that really does get me. Thanks for it. I'm kind of guilty of that too. Yeah, yeah, I should

probably put something in the fine jar or something, but we're still in Phoenix, or at least the Phoenix area, so I'll just call it Phoenix, and I won't say the track name.

That's what I've been doing in my tweets.

I'll say, at Phoenix.

And then they can't come back and say, well, wait, it's I-SM race, but I say, oh, no, I didn't say the name of the track.

I just said Phoenix, like Chicagoland or whatever.

Right.

Yep.

I get it.

Yeah. Anyway, we, we just saw the race here, and we just finished our interviews with the drivers.

I came back from Pitt Road.

You were out talking the same guy as I was.

We were in some of the same scrums, and then we heard from Kyle Busch as well.

And, of course, Kyle Busch winning his 52nd Cup race, his 199th National Series race.

We can get into that in a minute.

But first of all, I guess let's talk about how this race unfolded.

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